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KAZ_2Y5 |
1. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:04 PM EDT
Am I the only one who feels really cheated about this finale? I guess Carver Edlund was right, in the end, you're always going to piss of some fans, there's always going to be holes. The thing is, this wasn't the end. There's still going to be a season six and this finale makes me question where they're going to take it next.I mean, I know it's always been in the back of my head but now that the finale is over where can they go? Sam's gone, Michael's in hell, Dean's with Lisa, and Castiel's returning to heaven. I don't know, I'm just not happy with this one. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Yahtzee! |
2. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:06 PM EDT
....That was the most perfect thing I have ever witnessed on the TV. I can't even begin to lavish this episode with praise. All of it, they geared towards family: Sam and Dean,a nd their epic love. I cried a little, though with much difficulty, i had to keep my eyes clear to see what was going to happen next. The scene where Castiel and Bobby died, the wonderful thing that the writers, producers and directors managed to do is actually, make me not care at that moment. All i cared for was Sam and Dean---and that is a *feat* that i cannot even begin to explain. Sam and Dean. Sam and Dean! In the end they loved each other more than anything else and let each other go. SO AMAZING. I guess Castiel is leaving, though I hope that he'll find out that that wasn't meant to be. Michael and Lucifer both falling into the cage was something i didn't see coming. I guess that's the best though, because in Hell, no one expects them to be anything, and they don't have to fight anymore. SAM IS BACK.(or at least was allowed to see that his brother fulfilled his promise) CHUCK IS SOMETHING NOT HUMAN. AND IT ISN'T THE END T_T + :D = ????.....6th Season COME NOW!!! 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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3. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:07 PM EDT
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I still have "wtf...?" running through my head. I really don't know what happened. lol I think I'm gonna have to watch it again so I can somehow figure **** out. But I agree KAZ - Where ARE the writers going to go with -that- ending? o.O I just don't know... And was Sam, well, -Sam- or was Luci still in there somewhere? I just don't know! O: EDIT: was anyone else's first thought: IS CHUCK GOD? lol 'Cause that was mine, my mom's, and a friend's. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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4. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:11 PM EDT
The finale was phenomenal! Heartfelt, Cas snored, I don't think it could have been any better. I loved how they talked about all the quirks of the impala. It just brought out why the boys would never drive any other vehicle, and showed us some of their childhood that we didn't know about.Flashbacks, inner turmoil, promises made, it was excellent! Oh and Chuck just disappeared. I'm wondering if he was God all along! I mean he just whisked away, didn't disappear, he whisked! I'm still in awe. Then at the very end with Sam standing under the light pole, well I think it's Sam, but maybe a seriously altered Sam. Unless God brought him back too? I don't know they totally left it open for the sixth season in the Sam aspect. Poor Adam though, he's probably still stuck in hell, and I can only imagine the fight that's going on down there! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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5. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:12 PM EDT
Wow... this was one hell of a season finale (pardon the pun lol) It kinda felt like it was a series finale episode in some weird way. My mind was blown with Lucifer BLEW CASTIEL UP! And I felt so bad for Dean when Bobby's neck got snapped... there went everyone he loved in his life in less than a second. I thought that the Impala story arc was really cool... I've always loved that car! When Cas came back I immediately thought he was God, but when I heard Dean ask I knew it couldn't be the case. I can't wait for season 6... I wish it would start tomorrow. Also was it just me or did Sam seem like he might still be possessed at the end? Does anyone know when Season 6 starts?
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KAZ_2Y5 |
6. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:13 PM EDT
Yeah, actually I'm thinking Chuck is God too. And that whole thing with "respecting Becky" seems to put your mind in that direction.As for Sam, his facial expression at the end there was not... Sammy. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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7. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:13 PM EDT
"Am I the only one who feels really cheated about this finale? I guess Carver Edlund was right, in the end, you're always going to piss of some fans, there's always going to be holes. The thing is, this wasn't the end. There's still going to be a season six and this finale makes me question where they're going to take it next.Well, its meant to be something of a wrap,*this* peace and freedom is meant to be so wrong yet so right, and in my opinion, this was the only type of finale that could've really stunned us and bring us back, full circle, to what its all about, Sam and Dean, carving their own road and staying true to one another. I mean,after the apocalypse, you really can't add anymore problems, except separate the brothers, which is the worst possible thing to do. Its that element that i believe is supposed to bring us back next season. To see them come back together, not overcome something supernatural, but to face what they really are and fight for it. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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8. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:15 PM EDT
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I think the episode was well done, however I feel that it would have made a better series finale. This season summed up many plot lines and concluded the story for many characters. Plus with Chuck's narration of their life and the flashbacks of their adventures, it seemed like a great way to end the series. All you had to do was minus the part of Sam at the end and it would have made a plausible series finale. Lets hope the writers find a creative way to keep the story going.
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9. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:15 PM EDT
WHOA!I'll have to watch it again too! I was SHOCKED - with jaw hanging open and everything - several times! Takes a lot for a show to do that to me! I'm just super happy that Cas and Bobby are back! It was quite prophetic saying that Bobby was back hunting -- may mean that season six will be "back to business as usual"??? And who or what is Chuck???? And is that really Sam??? SO MANY QUESTIONS! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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10. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:18 PM EDT
"Am I the only one who feels really cheated about this finale? I guess Carver Edlund was right, in the end, you're always going to piss of some fans, there's always going to be holes. The thing is, this wasn't the end. There's still going to be a season six and this finale makes me question where they're going to take it next.I completely agree, KAZ. I'm not happy with this one either. I don't see how they're going to get out of this mess. Dean, a homebody?? No way. That's just not him. And how did Sam/Luci get out of the cage? I don't get that part. Was it Sam or was it Luci? And if Dean and Bobby aren't seeing each other for a long time, does that mean that Jim won't be back next season?? By the end of the episode, though, I knew something was up with Chuck - he never looks that put-together. He's always kinda schlepping it. Does that mean that God finally did step in for more than just Castiel? And Cas, the new sheriff in town? Will he be back in Season 6? Hmmm. Not long ago, he told Dean that he wasn't sure what was right anymore. I'm just trying to process everything... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Yahtzee! |
11. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:18 PM EDT
"Thatch interesting, cuz my impression was that it was Sammy, happy yet sad that Dean did what he asked him to. A very geniune exppression. The red light on the other hand, I think is supposed to add the ambiguity to who it really is. It looked like Sammy, but the red light suggest unholy means. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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12. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:19 PM EDT
Gruh, I can't get over my shock! <3 I know what I'm doing this summer! Haha I thought it was a different way of telling the SPN story, and that's probably what I can't get my head around. I'll watch it a couple more times, to see if it'll make anymore sense... maybe. lolBut I am glad that everyone else seems to be on the same page as me. haha <3 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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13. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:22 PM EDT
"Well, its meant to be something of a wrap,*this* peace and freedom is meant to be so wrong yet so right, and in my opinion, this was the only type of finale that could've really stunned us and bring us back, full circle, to what its all about, Sam and Dean, carving their own road and staying true to one another.I see what you mean but I'm not sure how they're going to pull it off with Kripke pulling out. I mean, taking the series and stripping it to it's main theme could either remind us why we fell in love with the series in the first place or remind us that it was supposed to end at season 5. I guess my main thing is that season five was so perfect. I'm curious to see how they turn it around with Dean and Lisa and really scared about what they're going to do with Cass. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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14. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:27 PM EDT
"I see what you mean but I'm not sure how they're going to pull it off with Kripke pulling out. I mean, taking the series and stripping it to it's main theme could either remind us why we fell in love with the series in the first place or remind us that it was supposed to end at season 5.I agree, Season five was perfect, and at this point in time, I can't see how they could top themselves. For now, I'm think that Supernatural has reached it's prime, and all I can see is the show winding down. But maybe that's good. Going out with blast would be sorta contradictory to what the brothers have aimed for since they were born. Something quiet, which I"m expecting Season 6 to be more of, is the ending that Sam and Dean probably would prefer. Who knows though, maybe its aliens next! It *is* X-files' heir. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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15. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:29 PM EDT
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"I completely agree, KAZ. I'm not happy with this one either. I don't see how they're going to get out of this mess. Dean, a homebody?? No way. That's just not him. And how did Sam/Luci get out of the cage? I don't get that part. Was it Sam or was it Luci? And if Dean and Bobby aren't seeing each other for a long time, does that mean that Jim won't be back next season?? By the end of the episode, though, I knew something was up with Chuck - he never looks that put-together. He's always kinda schlepping it. Does that mean that God finally did step in for more than just Castiel? And Cas, the new sheriff in town? Will he be back in Season 6? Hmmm. Not long ago, he told Dean that he wasn't sure what was right anymore.Sorry for the double post (if it ends up being a double post). That's what gets me, Dean and Lisa. I keep thinking of it like this: after all those years of hunting, you can't just turn it off. Sooner or later he's going to hear about a spirit or something similar and how could you NOT do something knowing people could die if you didn't? EDIT: And how can Cas, who challenged God for so long, be so willing to be his little soldier again? It's not like God's changed, I mean, he still left Dean and Sam hanging there. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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16. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:40 PM EDT
@greeneyedmonster and @KAZ 2Y5My take on it is that its supposed to be a very wrong and unfitting end. I think it was supposed to show that, while upholding their promises to each other, it still can't work, and they're going to have to change something. Its in Dean's blood, you're right, he can't just turn it off. I think that after a while, he'll realize it and it'll spark his leave for a "new mission" The new mission being whatever 6th season is geared towards. I mean, if they had ended it with Sam not making him promise to settle down, and Dean continuing to hunt, like he's supposed to, it would only bring the question as to why he doesn't just settle down like he's always wanted to. What's keeping him going, because Sam(aka his life) is gone. Y'know, it's seems like this would create a bigger hole. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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17. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 10:54 PM EDT
"@greeneyedmonster and @KAZ 2Y5Ah, now that makes more sense. Not just for Dean either, but it's like they're (Dean, Cas, Bobby) all being pushed into places that they don't really belong. If Dean had continued hunting it wouldn't be for the right reasons either. And from what Sera Gamble's been saying, everyone seems to be under the impression that we're heading back to season one territory. Which is comforting, I'd like to see some good ol fashioned comfort-food like episodes after all this Apocalypse business. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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18. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 11:08 PM EDT
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I liked the episode overall. The Winchester stuff was well done. I'm glad they made the Impala the link that united the brothers and brought Sam back at the end.I had a feeling Bobby would die. I thought he'd stay dead though. A question I had was, "what about Bobby's soul?" Did he get it back from Crowley? Did Cas restore it when he brought Bobby back? My head hurts just thinking about it. Cas exploding caught me totally by surprise. Reminds me of something that happened in a Jeffery Dean Morgan movie once. I was under the impression Chuck was God at the end. Whether he was God all along, I have no idea. As someone else mentioned, he seemed a lot more together at the end than he did in previous appearances. As for Sam, I think it was the real Sammy and God brought him back too. I think the weird look at the end was Sam being torn between reuniting with his brother or letting Dean live a normal life. For awhile anyway. Carry on wayward sons. Til next season. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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19. RE: What did you think of "Swan Song"?
May 13 2010, 11:15 PM EDT
"Thatch interesting, cuz my impression was that it was Sammy, happy yet sad that Dean did what he asked him to. A very geniune exppression. The red light on the other hand, I think is supposed to add the ambiguity to who it really is. It looked like Sammy, but the red light suggest unholy means."I have to agree, he looked almost sad, like he didn't want to interrupt, but had too. I remember an episode not too long ago, where Dean wanted it over so they could "get back to ganking each other". I never saw anywhere that said Dean stopped hunting. I also remember reading something, along the line of a "Dallas" like episode. Could be a bad dream that Sam pulls him out of. I dont know but I'm glad to get one more season of Supernatural. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |