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CalamityJim |
Supernatural Character Consistency and Issues With it.
Jul 28 2010, 3:55 AM EDT
I love Supernatural, I really do, but one of the things I've noticed about the Epic Arcs vs the stand alone episodes is the shaky and inconsistent habits of the characters. This didn't really become an issue until Season 3, but it grew more noticeable as the story arcs become more intricate. The weaknesses in Season 3 I blame on the writers' strike, but 4 & 5 don't have that excuse, so I'm a bit perturbed. A lot of the issues that really bother me focus on the character development of Sam specifically. Most of Dean's inconsistencies can be explained away as depression and PTSD. Sam doesn't really have those excuses. So in this thread I would talk about character inconsistencies that you people have spotted or argue about how wrong I am about this. Either way, this driving me nut and my RL friends don't watch the show. Do you find this valuable?
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CalamityJim |
1. RE: Supernatural Character Consistency and Issues With it.
Jul 28 2010, 4:03 AM EDT
So having presented my opinion I will now provide evidence. 1. The Boys and Bella. Bella left Sam die the first time they met. The second time she shot him to get the rabbits foot which would certainly kill Dean. Sam and Bella are not friends, so the really awkward sex dream Sam had about Bella was really awkward and inconsistent for the character. Both Sam and Dean should have been suspicious of Bella the last time they met, especially considering what they KNEW about her. She gave Gordon their location. She's an unconscionable thief whose actions have killed innocent people and she's responsible for the death of a relative. Considering how suspicious Hunters, nevermind the WInchesters, are of everyone even they have evidence that they aren't self serving, them letting her in close enough to get the colt was difficult to believe. 2. The Boys and Ruby. Ruby told Dean that she couldn't help Sam save him. Dean never told Sam that Ruby said that was lying about being able to help until it was way past too late, despite noticing and being angry at how much faith Sam was putting in Ruby. Those are not the actions of a Demon Hating overly protective big brother about to die. It just struck me as really false. 3. Sam and Drugs. Really? Really? Come on! The Hunter's Body is his first and last weapon. I understand that the writers tried to paint Sam as desperate to protect Dean but becoming dependent on a demon for the power to do so is counter intuitive, especially since all the other demon blood people Sam knows went crazy and then died. If there was a time when Sam would have believably picked up an addiction it would have been while Dean was dead, but it happened well into the 4th season. Plus Sam is a smart character who approaches problems logically. It is difficult to believe that Sam would ingest something potentially hazardous when threats weren't immediate. Do you find this valuable? |
Darun_Zahn |
2. RE: Supernatural Character Consistency and Issues With it.
Jul 29 2010, 4:48 AM EDT
1. Yeah, I can see that the writers did kind of force this scenario on Sam just to make some light humor, but I explained it to myself that she is a good looking woman with a lot of danger to her. She is witty and can hold her ground against the brothers. So I just assumed that Sam is not a lucid dreamer and that he just had a basic attraction to her and that his dreams wandered to it. When I see Sam around Bella it doesn't seem like he wants to save her or be overly nice to her even. (Dean asks if he can shoot her or kill her and Sam says "Not in public." So I see that as him not really thinking of her as a love interest) When he does act weird for the rest of the episode it is more just the writers forcing the humor of someone having a strange dream about someone else and then having to deal with that person and the dream in the same day. 2. I explained this one to myself as Dean being logical about the situation and weighing the choices. In one hand if Dean tells Sam then Sam has far less interest in what Ruby has to say, but then goes back to looking for more solutions to save Dean and from the earlier part of the season we see that Dean really doesn't like Sam tearing himself up over it. So by not telling Sam, Dean was just trying to help Sam move on after he died and it probably struck a nerve with Dean when Ruby mentioned that they had to work together to get Sam ready for when Dean died. Overall I think Dean distrusted Ruby a lot, but in some instances he could see the burned out husk of a human deep down inside. 3. I'm leaving 3 alone for now because I am pressed for time, maybe I'll return later. All I can say though is that I could understand Sam's situation because Ruby effectively became trustworthy in his eyes and no one really indicated that the blood was addictive. More elaborated response coming later. Do you find this valuable? |
