The Bad Place

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The Bad Place
Episode: 13:09
Airdate: December 7, 2017
Directed by: Phil Sgriccia
Written by: Robert Berens

In this shocking mid-season finale, a tip from Jody Mills leads Dean and Sam to Jack. The Winchesters learn that Jack has been seeking help from dreamwalkers to access the alternate universe and look for Mary. He also confirms for them that Mary is alive. The Boys' search for Jack leads them to a powerful dreamwalker, Kaia, who reluctantly helps them. Unfortunately, Jack and the Winchesters are racing against time, since the angels are willing to kill them all to get to Jack. Meanwhile, Patience Turner gets a troubling vision that leads her to Jody Mills.

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  • Dean to Sam about Jack (when they suspect Jack killed Derek) - "Look, this isn't an 'I told you so.', Okay? I mean...I actually like the kid. I do. But we're in worst-case-scenario land here."
  • Jack to Dean and Sam about Lucifer - "Why would I look for him? He's no one to me. You, Castiel -- you're my family."
  • Kaia to Dean, Sam, and Jack - "You're insane!"
    Dean to Kaia - "Yeah, the whole world's insane. You get used to it."
  • Kaia to Jack (when the angels are attacking) "What's happening?"
    Jack to Kaia - "Don't worry. We'll be fine."
    Dean (entering the room) - "We're screwed. There's too damned man of 'em."
  • Sam to Dean about Kaia's plan - "What if somethinggoes wrong?"
    Dean to Sam - "Something already is going wrong!"

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Kim Rhodes
(Jody Mills)
Samantha Smith
(Mary Winchester)
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Yadira Guevara-Prip
(Kaia Nieves)
Nathaniel Arcand
(Derek Swan
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Adrian Holmes
(James Turner)
Clark Backo
(Patience Turner)
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Elfina Luk
(Angel)

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Name: Angels
Species: Angels
Motivation: They are going extinct and think Jack can create more angels to save their race; they plan to kill the Winchesters and take Jack
Fate: Killed by Jack and Kaia (but more will come)

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  • Will Patience be able to help Jody?
  • Where does Patience's vision take place? It looks like it may take place in the prehistoric world where Dean and Sam landed.
  • How will the Winchesters escape from the prehistoric world?
  • Now that Jack has found Mary in the alternate universe (AU), how will they get back? Jack needed Kaia's help to open the rift this time, so will he need her help (or someone else's) to get Mary out?
  • The rift seems to be staying open, so does that mean it's open on the other side, too? Does that mean that if Dean and Sam can find the rift on their side, they can escape? Can Jack and Mary?.
  • If the rift to the AU remains open, then Michael no longer needs archangel blood to open it and come to our world. Can he simply cross over? What about the other angels? What about demons or anyone else in the AU?
  • When and how will the Winchesters learn that Castiel is being held prisoner by Asmodeus, and that Lucifer is already in our world?

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  • Asmodeus is still feeding the Winchesters false information, pretending to be Castiel, and holding Castiel and Lucifer prisoner.
  • We have never encountered a dreamwalker on Supernatural before. Traditionally, dreamwalkers (sometimes shamans or yogis, but not always), can achieve a meditative dream state that permits their consciousnessto view and explore other realities.
  • Kaia Nieves never knew her father; her mother died when Kaia was 12, and the aunt who cared for her after her mother's death is also dead. Kaia is a dreamwalker.
  • Dean clearly feels guilty for giving up on Mary. How many rules are he and Sam willing to break to get her back?
  • Michael seems to be holding Mary in the same iron-maiden-type cage where he held Lucifer. What does he want from Mary?
  • Although the angels consider Jack an abomination, they believe he can create more angels and save their race. They also believe that they can convince or compel him to help them if he doesn't want to.
  • Dean has changed from distrusting Jack to considering him family relatively quickly. Perhaps finding Mary changed Dean's opinion.
  • We have been told that angels can destroy warding sigils, but this is the first time we've ever seen them do it this way.

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  • This episode is the second pilot episode to kick off the "Wayward Sisters" spinoff. The first kickoff episode was "Patience", and the third will be "Wayward Sisters".
  • This episode introduces Kaia Nieves, the second new character we've met who will appear in the upcoming Wayward Sisters spinoff. It also re-introduces Patience Turner, whom we first met in episode 3 "Patience". Other confirmed cast members in the spinoff include Kim Rhodes (Jody Mills), Brianna Buckmaster (Donna Hanscom), Kathryn Love-Newton (Claire Novak), and Katherine Ramdeen (Alex Jones).
  • Adrian Holmes, the actor who played James Turner in this episode, also played a demon that Dean and Sam tortured in season 3 "Time is On My Side".
  • In Supernatural, James Turner (Patience's father) is Missouri Moseley's son. Missouri was a psychic and a hunter. We first met Missouri in season 1 ("Home") and she died in "Patience".
  • When Kaia is talking about the drug dealer who sold her amphetamines, she jokes that she considers him "a small businessman trying to make it in Trump's America." However, in LOTUS (Season 12) Jefferson Rooney is president, not Trump. That may have been a continuity error. It's also possible that a presidential election occurred in Supernatural world between seasons 12 and 13, so Trump may be president of the US in that world, too. There have been recent references to "making hell great again", in the show, which is a pun on Trump's campaign slogan to "make America great again", so the show has referenced the Trump campaign before.
  • Jack and the Winchesters find Kaia at Minneopa Rehabilitation Center in Minnesota.

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  • This episodes title may allude to the 1990 horror novel The Bad Place by Dean Koontz. The book is about a man who must repeatedly teleport to a series of alternate universes (some hostile) to escape a murderer who is chasing him and killing people in his wake.
  • Derek jokes that his potential buyer may just be a "gawking wasichu"; "wasichu" is a derogatoryLakota word, originally attributed to Europeans, describing someone who "takes the fat" or is greedy.
  • Jack's research into Derek's background revealed that Derek is Ogalala Sioux, which is a tribe of the Sioux nation. The Pine Ridge reservation where Derek grew up is in South Dakota. Jack also notes that Derek can trace his ancestry back to the shaman Black Elk. Black Elk (1863-1950) was related to the famous war chief Crazy Horse. He was a Lakota holy man and teacher.
  • Kaia jokingly calls Jack "Suite Life", alluding to the 2005-2008 Disney comedy series "The Suite Life of Zack and Cody", about two twin boys living in a hotel with their single mother (played by Kim Rhodes). Kaia may have been teasing Jack about being young/boyish, or about his Caucasian appearance.
  • Kaia laments that if she disappeared, she "wouldn't even rank a milk carton". The practice of dairies publishing photographs of missing children on milk cartons began in 1979 and was intended to reach consumers in the hope that someone would recognize the child and notify the police. The system has become less widely used since the Amber alert system went into effect.
  • Wind Cave National Park is in South Dakota. The location is considered a sacred site by several Native American nations.

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