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      October 29, 2020 at 10:03 pm #3085

      Kate, I could see you cheering Dean’s “he’s not family” speech from here.

      So lame that all powered-up Jack got to do was hold his stomach and cower in the hall for the back half of the episode.

        October 29, 2020 at 9:54 pm #3083

        I was NOT feeling this one (except for Sam and Dean’s heartfelt exchange in the hallway – they always make me feel it. Always. So good.) and I feel like I should be feeling everything at some core level – after all these years and with all of existence on the line, but it feels…too small!

        Chuck CAN do calm-scary, but angry is not working for him! It makes him LESS scary!

        So I guess they are being used by every entity (or every entity is attempting to use them) from God to Billie to The Empty to Adam and…Serafina (????). Everyone wants to use them to get their own revenge or advance their own eternal career.

        God KILLED Jack once so how is it this huge climax to have God try to kill him again? I did not get the ending. God thinks they’ll kill each other after Jack dies? What?

        Everyone here is a very good actor. So the reason it fell flat must be the script or directing or…why didn’t I feel more?

        Loved the exchanges between Sam and Cas. Loved Sam throughout. Smart and brave. Dean was written as too angry and single-minded. He’s so much more than that by now. And Dean pulling a gun on Sam just felt competely and totally wrong. Fighting? Even physically fighting? Okay. Dean would never point a loaded gun at Sam (unless Dean was not himself). Never. If they were trying for drama, it didn’t work because it was so out of character.

          October 22, 2020 at 10:24 pm #2968

          I was happily surprised by this one. I liked that we got a scary monster! I felt this young Dean may have watched Supernatural Christmas Dean because there were a few similarities in mannerisms. I DO think Dean at that age could have lashed out at Sam’s wish to go to college one day because HE didn’t want to lose Sam – likes seeing them as a team – the only one who truly understood their lives. I think he was mean to Sam out of fear of losing him (calling him dumb).

          I was glad at the end that Sam finally just got completely fed-up-mad about Dean keeping secrets. That was the appropriate response. I do not like that tired old theme (brothers at odds) somehow being thought of as necessary AGAIN by the writers – really? Do they have to go into the final battle at odds?

          Will Dean TRUST SAM as a result of this? Will he go with whatever idea Sam will come up with (I believe) to attempt to save Jack?

          I agree, Kate, the idea that Jack is sacrificing himself to try to get Dean to forgive him for Mary does not make sense with the timeline.

          Anyone else wonder why the bong-smoking desk clerk was added? I guess it was supposed to be funny?

          Overall, I really liked this one. Only 4 left now. I think it’s all in to the final showdown now. And we get what looks like a humorous (?) Adam (Adam and Eve Adam) next week.

            October 16, 2020 at 12:21 pm #2921

            I thought Connor was a liar about his sexuality.

            I like your theory, PigNaPoke, about how it will all go down and who is left in what role on a cosmic scale!

            Jensen’s acting with Emily was OFF THE CHARTS! It seems like it’s been awhile since we’ve gotten to see his amazing powers on full display.

            I did not love them leaving Sam out in the car though (????). Really, leaving Sam out of most of this.

            And I’ve noticed this for awhile now – when did Jared make the decision to give Sam such a halting speech pattern when he’s explaining things? Sam was not like that in the past.

            Is Cas’ big secret that Jack will die in this plan? Or still the deal he made with the creature in the Empty?

            My wife really liked this one; I think because it was explained…the religious group story was one where you didn’t need to have much background (everything was explained about everyone in the group)…there was some humor (My favorite was “Highway to Heaven this bitch”)…and not too many in-jokes.

              October 15, 2020 at 9:17 pm #2884

              P.S. – New Jersey – I grew up off exit 11 on interstate 78 – not 76, but just a bit north. ?

                October 15, 2020 at 9:14 pm #2882

                Well I think young John Winchester did a fine job directing that one! I was surprised there was humor from Davy Perez because he’s usually their go-to horror writer (there were definitely traditional horror elements). I did not see the perpetrator coming, so they got me there. We usually don’t get so much Cas and I actually enjoyed Cas (boy do I ever miss when demons were scary though – was it insinuated that the demon made her do it?). So, will Cas give his life for Jack’s now? I’m guessing he will.

                Sam and Dean – Sam did not have much of a role in this one. Dean was perfect. Funny, angry, determined, just had to know WHY Amara brought Mary back and I enjoyed that explanation though I could have also kept believing that Amara just wanted to give him a gift with Mary. I liked this one. Dean’s very compelling, but I did not totally buy that that’s all it took to talk Amara into helping them take down Chuck. I love that Dean couldn’t leave it alone though without getting some answers and giving it one more try.

                  October 8, 2020 at 10:18 pm #2832

                  “The inter-dimensional telescope – Dean didn’t see anything and Mrs. Butters said that was bad – I assume Dean didn’t see anything because God has destroyed all other worlds/dimensions?”

                  That’s what I thought, too. I was hoping for more of an explanation, but I don’t think we’re gonna get one.

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                    October 8, 2020 at 9:34 pm #2828

                    I loved seeing a new SPN episode so much that I was ready to forgive A LOT. And there was a lot to forgive. It started strong. I loved Dean’s wonder at the (temporary) good luck. I couldn’t believe they spent so much on all the different set decoration for the holiday montage! I wish we had had a lot more in-depth snippets of holiday celebration – opening Christmas gifts, talking around the Thanksgiving table, setting off Fourth of July fireworks – as if they were really creating some memorable moments. All of that went too fast and was too superficial. I thought Mrs. Butters was really good casting and very believable as a sympathetic creature. The hunting montages to show how easy it was were too brief and not that necessary – coming home covered in blood would have done the trick. Sam’s date – okay, but distracting. I never like it when a character we know is implied but not seen – like Eileen here or Crowley in the trunk. But I too thought it dragged in the middle when Dean and Jack were locked up. We were told WAY too many times that Mrs. Butters wanted to protect her family. And the call-back to the Christmas episode with Sam tied up getting his fingernails pulled out by a creepy housewife type felt like a re-tread all these years later. I give it a 4 out of 10. Jack? I saw the smoothie roofie thing a mile away. I do like Jack, but he wasn’t used well here. I would have cut short the part that dragged and added a ton more to the holidays. This is likely the last light-hearted one we’ll get.

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