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      March 9, 2023 at 5:21 pm #44241

      I have mixed emotions about the episode. The episode definitely had its moments. Ive loved seeing Bobby and Jack and of course Dean even when he didn`t look like Dean, more like Jensen.

      But I still dont get why they waited with the revelation that all of this is an AU until the finale. I think I would have enjoyed watching the whole series much more if I had known what I know now. I think I have mentioned it before that I didnt feel for John and Mary, mostly because I thought I  knew  nothing would going to happen to them. But now that turns out not to be true. They actually could have died. So there could have been some tension in the episodes, why didn`t they use that ?

      I liked the reason why Dean is doing all this, but this whole Akrida storyline still doesn`t really work for me.

      Dean not looking like Dean was bothering me a bit too. I get that that was more a logistical problem of Jensen, but does it make sense that a dead man technically without a body or vessel, grows his hair and a beard ? But I don`t want to sound petty about that. Do you even have a body in heaven ? I have to think about that.

      But what stilll my biggest problem is, because that is more important to me than even the storyline, I dont really care about the characters. I dont care about the John and Mary love story. I`m especially not a fan of Mary. Might be the acting, but I think it is also how she is written.

      Summarized I can say, I have enjoyed the episode, but more for the Supernatural eastereggs than for the Winchesters content. I think that will probably never be one of my favorite shows, no comparison to Supernatural, but I would watch it if there would be a season 2.

      Stedan
        February 22, 2023 at 6:29 pm #42908

        Sadly I have to agree with PigNaPoke. Unfortunately now 2 episodes till the end, I have to realize that not just this episode, but the whole show isn`t really working for me.

        My biggest problem is that I dont feel for the characters. Not sure if it is the acting or the storyline, but I just dont really care about them.

        I also feel that there is no golden thread through the story. I get that they said everything will be revealed in episode 13. But until then nothing, no hints, no clues. If they think that once in a while a pic of Dean is enough to make it interesting. I dont think so. At least not for me. I think that not revealing with what is actually happening till the finale, might even have worked if they would have included the audience into the journey. But just patching patching together random storylines with no backround to the overall arch isnt working.

        The Lata story didnt work for me either. I first thought I might have missed something. The app didnt let me watch it this time, so I had to watch it on another platform and the audio was pretty bad. So I thought I have missed something. I just didn`t get what was so dark on this secret. Of course it is terrible what happened. But is just that Lata made an unintentional mistake and her parents are cruel assholes. Probably trapped in obsolete traditions. How is this on Lata ?

        Of course I hope that the finale will bring a big bang, but I`m not sure that that will be enough to keep my interest for the show. If it gets another season.

        Stedan
          February 11, 2023 at 7:12 pm #41675

          I definitely liked this episode better than last weeks. Not everything made sense to me, but the episode was entertaining and even had some Supernatural vibes.

          I don’t mind the Akrida storyline, but slowly but surely I would like to know how all of this is connected to the future or to Dean in specific. Like PigNaPoke said, it doesn’t make sense that Dean is driving the impala back in 72, the car still belongs to his former owner in this time period.

          I also have a problem with thinking that the Akrida has wiped out the mol, when in Supernatural it was Abbadon, so demon related. Maybe the will put all of this together in the end and everything will be explained, but I can`t see that at the moment.

          Another thing that I’m not a huge fan of is, that the show seems to focus more and more on romances. I get that it has to be about the John and Mary love story, but now also Carlos and Anton and Lata and Tony ? That is getting a bit to much for me. What I liked at Supernatural was, that it was not so much about romances and I get this is a different show. I’m just not a fan.

          I also agree that the  set design doesnt have SPN standards. It sometimes looks a bit “cheap”. It never did on Supernatural, even when they didn`t always have the biggest budget either.

          But even with all of this complaining, for me it was one of the better episodes and I have enjoyed watching it.

          Stedan
            February 4, 2023 at 12:10 pm #40712

            Unfortunately I felt differently about the episode.

            I believe that was my least favorite episode so far. It just didn’t work for me. I don’t even know where to start.

            I think what has bothered me most, was that I felt the episode was boring. I mean the center of the episode was the fear that John might die. But we all know he will not, so there was not much left to fear about.

            The fight with the vampires seemed unrealistic and yes I know that a vampire fight is always unrealistic. I’m talking about Supernatural standards. And I’m  not talking just about Carlos the holy water hair thing. That didn’t make sense either, but I could live with that, but it seemed forced to me. Just doing it to show of Carlos. Which imo isn’t necessary. He is my favorite character anyway. But this didn`t work or me.

            I usually also like Lata, but this time she seemed a bit arrogant and know it all to me.

            I agree that the acting of John and Millie was good. But that alone didn’t save it for me. And I still don’t get why they don`t play a bit with the overall arch. How Dean is connected to all this. I believe waiting till ep. 13 for that is not a good idea. I hope I will like next episode better again.

            Stedan
              January 25, 2023 at 7:39 pm #39532

              I wasn’t able to watch the episode live, so I had already seen some spoilers on twitter, which seemed like a battlefield today. It seemed a lot of people had a problem with the episode. I get where they are coming from, the show gets farther from everything we know about Supernatural.

              I don’t have that much of a probem with it because I trust that Jensen wouldn’t destroy Supernatural’s legacy and it seems to me that he want that Supernatural reboot more than anyone. So changing the Supernatural canon wouldn’t make any sense. But what I don’t get is, why they let us so much in the dark. I had the theory from the start that what this is about a changed history and Dean is fighting to get “our” Supernatural back. I actually would really like that as a storyline. But if that is what this is about, why wait then until the last episode for everything to make sense.

              Besides that I enjoyed the episode. I liked the focus on Carlos, who seems to become my favorite character of the Winchesters. And he really can sing.

              I have a bit of a problem with Samuel. I like the “new” Samuel, but shouldn’t they stick with his Supernatural characteristic ? Wanting Mary out of the hunting live was the last thing that our Samuel wanted. And as far as I remember he never really knew much about the mol. I liked Tom Welling’s performance, but this is not the Samuel Campell we know.

              I was a bit confused about the Loki storyline aswell. First, who was that ? Was that Gabriel aka the trickster or the real Loki ? And why was he doing, what he was doing. Just for the fun of torturing people. The trickster was more about just deserts, playing games with people who he thought deserved it. So I don`t get his incitement in this.

              And I still don’t really care about Mary. It might be the acting, I just don’t feel for her. But overall I’ve enjoyed the episode. I just wish, I could either seperate this more in my head from Supernatural or and I would prefer that, they would let us know a bit more about the backstory of all of this. I really don’t get what is the purpose of this secretivness. I think they are loosing viewers, the ratings were not good.

              Stedan
                December 10, 2022 at 3:58 pm #33344

                What can I say, maybe I had to high expectations for this episode with all that had been teased before. I was really looking forward to them finally finding the dads, I always liked Henry in Supernatural and was looking forward to seeing him again.  I was hoping there would finally be an explanation for the canon differences to the mothership. At least a little something. But I must say I was quite dissapointed by this episode.

                Not much has changed, there is not one character I really care about. I like some of the characters, but I do not love them, I do not really care.  Not like I cared for Sam and Dean since episode 1. Maybe I’m expecting to much. I agree with all you have said about Mary, or better about Meg. I have never been the biggest Mary fan in Supernatural either, but I had sympathy for her. But Meg’s Mary is just annoying. And there is no chemistry between her and John at all.

                For me at least the motw part was ok. I also liked the glimpses into Carlos history. But this is pretty much everything I felt positive about.

                Something what also keeps bothering me is, that Dean doesn’t sound like Dean. I never thought I would say that. But I would rather not have Jensen narrating this. At least not if he doesn’t sound like Dean.

                Now I hope the second part of the season will get better. Hope dies last.

                Stedan
                  November 25, 2022 at 8:24 pm #30489

                  I definitely liked this episode better than one last week. Unlike some of you I felt a bit like a Supernatural vibe at the “case” of the week.

                  But my main problem remains and that are the characters, or better the lack what I feel for the them. I usually like Carlos, but this week his antics seemed a bit exaggerated to me. And I just can’t bring myself to feel much for Mary, she seemed a bit better in this episode, not so forced, a bit more sympathetic. But I still can’t say that I really care about her.

                  And I think that is the main problem. I don’t really care about the characters, I don’t sympathize with them. I mean, we are at midseason now and we have a pretty long hiatus ahead. But I can’t say that I feel like I’m eagerly awaiting to find out what happens next, other than that I hope for some familiar faces in the upcoming episodes.

                  I’m really sorry that I have to say this, but now we have seen half of the season and my resume is, I wouldn’t be shocked if the show didn’t get a second season. That’s at least how I feel at this point. I still hope that I will be able to change my mind and I really want Jensen and Danneel to succede.

                  Stedan
                    November 20, 2022 at 7:38 pm #29130

                    I have just noticed that my account name is not the same anymore. That’s my “real name”. Doesn’t really matter, I`m not  incognito, lol. I just want to let you know.

                    Stedan
                      November 20, 2022 at 7:30 pm #29127

                      And I`m back (as me). I had the same feeling about Drake, he really reminds me a lot of Sam, which I like.

                      I have been thinking a bit about Robbie Thompson and must say I really am taken aback about the writing in the Winchesters. I am really wondering about it, Robbie was one of my favorite writers on Supernatural and I can’t imagine that he should have lost his writing skills. The only thing I could think of, that it is maybe a difference (and easier) to write great episodes and develop great characters. I mean he did develop great characters for the Winchesters. I think Millie, Ada, Carlos are all great and interesting characters. But maybe it is harder to be a showrunner, to built an overall interesting story arc. I just don’t get it.

                      But I stilll hope for the twist that will knock our socks of. Unfortunatelly there might not be lot of time left. I really hope the show picks up pace after the hiatus.

                      Stedan
                        November 2, 2022 at 4:56 pm #24361

                        Am I the first one to write anything ?
                        I think that was my favorite episode so far. Maybe that is because it was not so much about John and Marys relationship. But what felt a bit weird, was that I at times almost forgot that this is the story of our John and Mary.
                        I loved Carlos character development. I`m glad that he is not just there for the fun moments and jokes.
                        Johns portrayal of ptsd was amazing and the ending scene was heartbreaking.

                        The only thing that did bother me a bit, was the coincidence that they found the book with the text that could kill the god, found in this room in which no one has been for a while. A bit too much luck to be believable.

                        Stedan
                          October 29, 2022 at 1:23 pm #22956

                          I agreeabout prequels being hard, especially if the timespan between the the prequel and the original story is so short and covers the same characters. If it would be a prequel about the history of the families, that would have been easier. Like the Campbells on the Mayflower or something like that. But this is difficult.

                          Stedan
                            October 26, 2022 at 4:37 pm #22526

                            I sometimes feel like I`m nitpicking all the time too. But it is just that I have so many questions that I hope will get answered by the end of the season.
                            Mary’s crisis came a bit by surprise for me too. But to be fair, I never really got Mary’s character, not even in Supernatural. It`s like there are different personalities of her. I liked her being more emotional in the last episode of the Winchesters, but it seemed a bit to much to be really credible.

                            I don`t really see that huge chemistry between John and Mary or better Meg and Drake either. But we are only in episode 3, maybe we expect to much, maybe that will grow. Maybe we are spoiled by Sam and Dean or better by Jared and Jensen.

                            I`m really looking forward to the next episode and hope for a twist. I think that would be good for the storyline.

                            I don`t know why, as it was quite a different situation, but the scene where Ada put the demon into the mini tree, reminded me a bit of Rowena and the hamster.

                            Stedan
                              October 26, 2022 at 10:08 am #22494

                              I agree pretty much with what journalbookbinder said.
                              For me that was the weakest episode so far. I liked the beginning, especially that they do in like in Supernatural, start with the case and then the the Winchesters intro. That give me Supernatural vibes.
                              The motw story was solid, but that`s about it.

                              I agree Johns desperation about loosing Mary, way too dramatic that early on in the show. I must say the John and Mary relationship is imo the weakest part of the whole storyline. That might be just me, but I find romantic relationships, especially if they happen so early in a story, a bit boring. But I guess that is a matter of taste.But what I think is a problem for all viewers, is the fact that we know what will happen. We know they will get together, we know nothing will happen to them. I think that is a problem.

                              It seems to me that they try to focus on the John and Mary relationship, like Supernatural did with Sam and Dean. But there is no comparison, for a number of reasons. What I thought was entertaining in the last episode, they all working together, their dynamic, was missing in this episode, especially Carlos.

                              I was glad that they finally found an explanation for Deanna not being around, but it didn’t really work for me. I got a different impression of her in original spn. I know that’s not very progressive, but I took her as someone who is to a certain degree in the hunter’s life, but more being supportive to her hunting family. I know we haven’t seen much of her, but she didn’t seem to me not as a person who separates and goes hunting by herself and not even checking in with her daughter. But I guess we will see where they are going with that.

                              What I did like and what gives me a bit hope for the upcoming episodes, was the ending. Didn’t this boy Mary was talking look a lot like John? I’m wondering if that is a coincidence, or if maybe someone or something is trying to mess a bit with John and Mary`s lovestory. I think a little twist would be interesting. So I keep watching and hope for the best. I really wish for the show to succeed.

                              Stedan
                                October 20, 2022 at 2:28 am #22013

                                @journalbookbinder
                                I`m writing the comments on my laptop.

                                Stedan
                                  October 19, 2022 at 1:45 pm #21969

                                  Any idea why text looks so weird ? I don`t know where this frames come from. When I type the text it looks normal.

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