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WOW, Dean, whiskey BEFORE breakfast?
Lots of good scary moments in this episode:
The hairdryer death is nice and gruesome but couldn’t she have just slipped out the bottom?
The porter john death is even MORE gruesome! YIKES.
And the beating heart in the cup cakes is a GREAT effect and nasty.
YAY, James Marsters and Charisma Carpenter – Buffy Alumni. I always liked James as an actor A LOT. Charisma isn’t AS good, but she’s fun here, I thought. And they have good chemistry together.
UGH, a Trump reference.
I love that the secretary is NOT Don’s girlfriend and finds the idea ridiculous! HA.
How mean of Sam to ruin Dean’s pie moment with smelly chicken feet. BARF.
I love the “counseling session” going sideways and Maggie and Don starting to talk about the last 800 years, HA.
Nice benefit of Don putting a whammy on the Leviathan dude so they can interrogate him next episode. LOL.
Poor Sam, trying so hard to BE THERE for Dean and not getting anywhere.
AH – isn’t that the motel from my autograph book box at the end?
Another filler episode, but more fun for me than the last one.
Episode starts intriguing enough. Unusual cases. No clear early culprit.
I even like the idea of Osiris and Sam stepping in as a lawyer.
BUT it’s all too labored and heavy-handed.
Of course, Dean feels guilty. I wager every hunter feels plenty guilty. And I don’t buy that Sam has NO guilt.
And WHY is Osiris THERE? WHY is he acting out his job in this random town. I need more of a reason for him showing up there. Like someone summoning him to get to Dean or a Egyptian exhibition in town where something gets broken and Osiris rises.
In Egyptian mythology I don’t remember Osiris to just go around judging people. And definitely not killing people. He just judges AFTER they die.
Once we know we are looking at Osiris, the other deaths feel flimsy. If Osiris MAKES the wronged people kill the people feeling guilty, why is the first guy killed by the CAR and not the girl. And it shouldn’t be Jo coming for Dean, but Amy.
So, the whole things falls apart for me as a gimmick to get us to see that Dean really feels guilty about killing Amy and lying to Sam about it.
Plus, it’s kinda like the episodes with the “First Witnesses” in Season 5 where dead Meg and Ronald come back.
I do love the conversation between Dean and Jo, but I don’t buy the Dean being ok with dying at this particular time.
Some other thoughts:
Are Elizabeth’s bones just in the earth? No coffin? They dug up WAY older bodies still in their coffins.
Why is Sam so chipper and Dean so tired after digging up the grave?
WOW, Bar Lady, pushy much?
Bobby is the only one with sense telling them to get out.
Love the ghost make-up on Jo. She looks amazingly spooky.
Did Sam clonk the Rabbi over the head to steal the horn or convince him to borrow it? I didn’t get why we see Sam being caught and then….NOTHING. (Maybe a scene was cut in editing, but then they could have cut it where Sam FINDS the horn and straight to the car when he drives back.
Sam totally throws the empty beer can in the front seat at the very end. HA. Dean uses the convenient trash can in the middle of nowhere.
I didn’t hate the episode, but it’s not doing anything for me either AND doesn’t drive the overall story forward. Kinda a filler with little substance, but nice to see Jo.
This is the fourth episode that starts immediately in the time line after the last one ends! Rare occurrence but showing well that Sam and Dean (and Bobby) really hadn’t have ANY break for quite a while and the situation first with Cas, leading into the Leviathans, is developing fast.
The whole bit at the hospital at the beginning is funny. On first watch I remember being SO RELIEVED to see Bobby again – just like Dean was. And looking so dapper in a full suit and all cleaned up!
I love Rufus’ old cabin, but it would be a TIGHT fit for three grown men!!
I can totally understand Dean’s cabin fever! If he has to result to Spanish Soap Operas…..it’s BAD.
I know you don’t like the Leviathan storyline, but I actually do. It’s something brand new to them (and us) AND so old that info is not easily found about the monsters. This creates a research situation more reminiscent of the earlier seasons where they were more clueless, and I like that. They have to slowly puzzle out the clues about what they are dealing with, really work together. It’s also funny to me that in the end something as simply as borax can hurt them, which kinda makes sense considering that chemical shit didn’t exist when they were created by God. HAHA.
The actual CASE in this episode is a good one. LOVE the flash backs and a real insight into SAM’s first real case. We see him immediately sympathetic to a creature that cannot help its nature. It’s sweet how he asks Dean on the phone how to talk to girls!! LOL. And then he really just needs to beat up the bullies (one of which is the kid from “Dead In the Water”, right?)! Colin Ford is SO good as Sam!! He does it ALL on his own here. When he’s “talking” to Dean and Dad on the phone, we can almost hear them just by the way Sam reacts and talks to them. It is really great acting! And he’s SO hopeful when feeling like Amy really understands him. All for such brief joy, but you can feel it with him.
I really enjoy how present, and past are cut together. We see young Sam kiss Amy and feel like kindred spirits, having a lot in common, then hard cut to Sam confronting adult Amy in the woods and we don’t know anything about what happened to her in the past. It’s pieced together in an interesting way.
I am NOT on board with Dean killing Amy at the end. I never understood why the writers did that. This is NOT like Dean anymore. Especially with a kid involved! Early Season Dean saw black and white, yes, but Dean in Season 7 is not like that anymore. It’s not a knee jerk reaction either. It’s calculated and planned. AFTER he talks to Sam about his thought process on the case and what happened in the past.
Sam had a good reason to trust Amy’s word. AND HE ASKED Dean to trust HIM! That’s the biggest issue I have with this. HATE that!
I don’t have a hard time “forgiving” Dean, because to me this action wasn’t Dean and I will simply ignore it. HAHAHA.
This episode feels like a slowly tightening noose. We start out thinking, OK, maybe now we can regroup and figure something out. We end at “OH CRAP, what’re we gonna do now?”
It’s intense! Everything just keeps getting worse. The more they find out about the Leviathan the more impossible the task feels. Sam is quickly unraveling. We LOOSE BOBBY’S HOUSE – whaaaa !! It’s all bad.
But from the start:
My first thought in the lab was “Wow that set must have been a MESS to clean up! SO MANY fluids!” HAHA.
OUCH, Sam’s hand! Typical Winchester wound care, I guess.
Sam talking about his hallucinations is really tough to watch, knowing that JARED probably also had some issues by then himself. He’s on the verge of real tears here and I keep wondering if some of that is REAL Jared.
Very funny that the Leviathan girl learns about the world from watching Dr. Sexy MD!! The voice over is hilarious and the way she repeats it later to the surgeon.
AAAWWW – Bobby, trying to be a “Dad” and support for Dean dealing with all the shit is cute. The way both Dean and Bobby smirk at the end showing that they DO understand each other is really sweet.
Love seeing Jody. Not loving the hair cut here, but it’s always awesome to have her in an episode even if only for a few scenes. She definitely is in Hipaa violation memorial hospital here, though. LOL
It really should have tipped Sam off that this is not Dean by the way he talks to him!! Dean would never be this cruel! He can be a little rough when he’s pissed and scared for Sam, but he’s never cruel like this.
I do love the way WE find out that Dean/Lucifer/Halucination is NOT Dean. The hard cut from them in the car to Dean coming back to Bobby’s house is cool.
The scene where Dean talks Sam off the ledge in the warehouse is my favorite. Dean is plain straight here with Sam. Really talking about his own difficulties after Hell and how to keep it together. It’s raw and real and a GREAT brother scene.
Followed straight up by the loss of Bobby’s house !! ARGH!! That one SHOCKED me on first watch and hurts badly every time I rewatch!
And Dean’s phone call to Bobby from the junk yard telling him that he’ll commit murder suicide if Bobby is gone is totally heart-breaking!! They’re always doing so damn well on the show letting us have little glimpses that Sam and Dean are NOT superhuman but very much an emotional mess inside when shit like this happens. They feel SO deeply and are SO strong for going on anyways….that’s what makes them so inspiring and relatable. LOVE IT. And thank the gods we have such great actors making it believable.
It’s deeply creepy that the Leviathans KNOW Bobby, Sam and Dean from being inside Cas for a while!! Having a new big bad is bad enough, having found nothing to defeat it yet, is worse, having that new enemy KNOW you is awful.
Even as tense and tragic as the situation is at the end, they still give us a chuckle when Dean says “I’m the one with the broken leg. You gotta carry ME!” to an unconscious Sam.
You KNOW it’s DESPERATE times when Dean calls an AMBULANCE instead of pouring whiskey on his wounds and marching on!
First let me say that Dean looks EXTRA SPECIAL GOOD in this episode. I don’t know what it is, but he is especially striking looking!!
This episode is a little slow and meandering at times, setting up the new order of things and Cas as the “new boss”, then there are real rollercoaster moments with new revelations and shock value. Overall, I do enjoy watching it a lot. And I think the episode does set off the season well, foreshadowing confusion, loss and seemingly insurmountable new challenges.
As much as I hate what Castiel did at the end of Season 6, I DO LOVE what Misha does throughout the episode, portraying Case believing he is God. He is back to being scary and intimidating. He feels alien and disconnected from any humanity he might have displayed before. He seems like a proper heavenly creature to me, completely inhuman!
I appreciate the surprise when we see Cas in heaven, doing his little speech, when the camera pulls back and we see the field of dead angels! It’s impressive and makes for a chilling shift in power dynamics.
I NEVER noticed before that Dean wears an “Eye of the Tiger” T shirt under the overshirt when he works on repairing Baby!!! Too funny, IF not really Dean to me.
I love the scene in the church! Those parishioners had it coming! And the Cas church window is a nice touch. He’s definitely going for the old testament god version.
Crowley in the crappy RV is hilarious! And the exchange between him and Cas is great. It’s fun to see Crowley not over confident here, but basically bowing to Cas, yet still with the air of one who doesn’t totally submit. You can see that he won’t just be a sniveling ass kisser, but buying time.
Poor Sam going slowly out of his mind! That scene where he gets pulled by chains to the ceiling must’ve been uncomfortable to film.
Funny that Bobby’s garage has a special bay for painting cars!
I hope they’ll tell us in the SPN
FULGURITE!! YAY.
I LOVE all the scenes in the rich folk’s mansion!!! The way Bobby and Sam stare at Dean when they come in and the home owners are tied to chairs, but not blindfolded….pretty dumb. It’s bad enough they can identify Dean….
Then they are so careful with removing the fulgurite from the case and moving furniture carefully, just to have the whole place be wrecked from the summoning spell. FUNNY!
The interactions between Dean and Death are always a favorite of mine! Jensen has THE perfect way to play Dean’s swagger AND being terrified of Death’s power at the same time. And Julian is sublime in his indifference to them. Mildly curious, because they intrigue him with their boldness, but in the end, not really caring for the outcome. He never loses the really scary edge with his performance. You completely buy that he could flick their lights out in an instant. It is freaking AWESOME to watch.
And then there is the reveal about the Leviathans, of course! I always found the idea of monsters so old and dangerous, that God locked them away in a specially created prison and that even Death has a healthy respect of them, intriguing. The LOOK of them eating prey is questionable, yes, but the premise is great to me.
The exchange between Cas and Death is also amazing. You can basically feel the power sizzling between them. The way they speak so calmly but DON’T BLINK, just staring each other down, it’s CREEPY and great!
We also get another demonstration of Cas’ delusions of grandeur and his stupidity in not taking the monsters inside him seriously as a threat.
What the episode does do well is setting up the ruse that Cas is the new big bad, just to pull the rug out from under all of them and us right away again.
I do appreciate that Sam is hanging on to hope that they CAN get through to Cas and that Cas is still in the vessel somewhere and cares. Even though, I don’t think he should. LOL. He’s the bigger man than me (or Dean in that moment).
I am very GLAD that Dean DOESN’T let Cas off the hook, when he says he “feels regret”!! You freaking SHOULD! Even after Cas “dies” (and Dean is obviously sad) and comes back and says again that he is sorry and will make up for it, Dean doesn’t give him an easy out, just non-committal “one step at a time” feedback. It really shows in my book that Dean feels DEEPLY hurt and betrayed.
Another excellent scene is the one between Mark P. and Jared! The idea that ALL we are seeing it actually in Sam’s head and none of it happened is SO jarring! Even if it only lasts a few moments, it definitely throws us for a big loop.
I am SO GLAD we see this the same way!!!
Because for me everything Cas did later on was tinted by this episode in a way.
Even eventually taking on Sam’s crazy wasn’t enough for me, because he risk Sam’s life (and Dean’s by extension) with the initial act of crumbling the wall and leaving him defenseless all to keep them out of her way….
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YES, indeed! Samuel Colt must have been pretty smart to figure out the cell phone to the point of finding an ADDRESS that isn’t even really Sam’s home. LOL
Great start to the season 6 Finale!!
We are left totally clueless and rudderless with Sam running around like a looney.
I love the way the story is unfolding in this episode.
Totally forgot that “Angel Duma” is in this episode as Robin.
Really cool idea with the fractured Sam’s. And great job, Jared, for playing the different parts of Sam so distinctly. Especially the merge between soulless part and slightly too clueless part was really well done, once they came together it was easy to tell we now had tougher, almost normal Sam, but not quite. Shows real nuanced understanding of all that Sam is made up of!
I love the urgency in the episode, too. Dean is so torn between sticking with Sam and trying to stop Cas. Bobby is trying to keep the calm and keep Dean on track. Cas and Crowley squabbling for control. Cas slowly losing grip on the last bit of sanity AND killing Balthazar. It’s all really well done.
Yup, this stretch of Cas’ storyline is making me lose ALL sympathy for him. He can’t even claim he was under anyone’s influence until he actually has the Purgatory souls inside him.
It’s a solid Season Finale even if I hate what’s happening. HA!
MAAAAAN, end of Season 6 is TOUGH!!
This is one of my least favorite episodes…..because we permanently lose Lisa and Ben from the show.
I STILL wish Dean would have had more faith in believing that Lisa can make her OWN decision of wanting to keep or break up contact with him. The memory wipe never sat well with me.
Not only does it seem cruel to Lisa (and Dean, of course, but HE made the choice) but I also don’t really think that it WOULD actually protect Lisa and Ben IF something would want to come after them to hurt Dean again…..
But as a story line, it is POWERFUL! And I totally blame CAS for it! It’s Cas’ wishy-washy attitude towards Crowley that forces Crowley’s hand, more or less.
LOTS of maneuvering of players in this episode. Very interesting to watch.
Dean breaks my heart! Torturing demons, trying to get information, but still also trying to protect Sam from seeing him lose his shit on the demons?!
The Lovecraft case is a fun exploit on that bit of well-loved literary pop culture. And I LOVE how they brought Ellie back into the story like this! Shame she dies – love the actress! And her and Bobby really have some great scenes together.
The old actor playing the last surviving human from the initial Lovecraft spell night was fantastic! He had a great way to still seem like a little boy in an old body, like his development got stuck back then from shock or something.
I am glad we have some great actors like Sebastian Roche to deliver exposition to us. It would be pretty heavy handed otherwise. LOL.
Cas BLACKMAILING Dean with the promise to help Lisa and Ben if he’s standing down is another TOTAL huge crack in their friendship. At least it would be for me.
Some GREAT lighting in the warehouse scenes!
As hard as it is to watch, I love the dad energy Dean has with Ben and how he keeps him focused and helping to get Lisa out of the warehouse.
I tear up every time I watch Dean giving up Lisa and Ben when he walks from their room in the Hospital and ALMOST loses it. (Gorgeous acting again from Jensen!!) UGH! Poor Dean and also…DAMMIT, Dean!
I am glad that Sam at least TRIES to make Dean see reason at the end, but also respects Dean’s wishes without an argument when he sees the tears in Dean’s eyes! THAT is good brother energy.
All sooo sad!
This episode is difficult for me.
GREAT dramatic story line, for sure, BUT….
I know it’s MEANT for us to understand Cas more and his motivations and see that he needs help to see right from wrong. BUT what it does for me instead is REALLY turn me off from Cas. And I think, deep down, this episode broke my love for Cas pretty permanently.
CROWLEY says it exactly right here (paraphrasing): “As long as the Winchesters believe the big lie of the good Cas, the righteous Cas, you (Cas) get to believe it.”
But that’s not good enough. I need more here to make me see his pure intentions.
He keeps saying he is doing this and that to protect his friends. But ALL of his actions have a kernel of self-service. None of it is self-sacrificing.
He’s weak – not strong. At least weak-minded. Motivated by the fear of losing heaven, being beaten by Raphael and he doesn’t even come up with his own clever solution…Crowley does that FOR him…..SIGH. And he doesn’t have the wits to see the negative side of this?!
Or AT LEAST to ask for help from the Winchesters and Bobby? Has he learned NOTHING from them!
I’m also not a fan of the jumpy timeline. It’s confusing!
I do LOVE Crowley here – Mark is fantastic.
And JENSEN!!! That few seconds of non-verbal acting right after Dean finds out that Cas DID betray them is so freaking masterful. You see every nuance – surprise, loss of faith, deep disappointment, hurt and finally murderous anger. WOW.
And Dean is right in saying later: “You’re a freaking child. Just because you can do what you want, you don’t get to do whatever you want.”
Every moment in this episode where Cas is given yet another chance to listen and change course, he doesn’t. ON WHAT AUTHORITY???
And then he’s ASKING GOD????? Who hasn’t spoken to him ever???
He has close friends who are looking out for him RIGHT THERE. FAMILY who wants to believe in him and forgive him. And he’s choosing to ignore them? THAT is STUPID. (And making Sam’s wall crumble later on is unforgivable to me).
Yeah, IF the intention was to make me feel for Cas’s hard situation and difficult choices….it failed. All it makes me feel is outraged that he learned so little and is so damn naïve.
This episode is kinda middle of the road for me.
I find the EVE story line in this super confusing, with the monster mixing etc, but as we find out much later….we were supposed to be confused. Still it makes the episode drag for me and less enjoyable.
I do like Amber Benson (Lenore) a lot as an actress and thought bringing her character back here even if just for a few moments was a good choice. And having Cas kill her so abruptly and without apparent feeling was pretty chilling.
I don’t like the actress they chose to play Eve, she was not convincing in the least, BUT Sam Smith really does a great job here as Eve with Mary’s face on. She uses the perfect mix of sweet and edgy. (I wish, though, they had kept it Mary’s visage as Eve died. It would have been even more impactful.). I love how that throws Sam and Dean off a little. And it makes the exposition and big reveals Eve has to give us more interesting to watch.
BOBBY is very fun to watch in this. His “a computer is supposed to have buttons” reaction to a tablet Sam gives him is sweet. I often feel like technology is racing away from my comprehension. HA! And overall Bobby has a lot of good insight here and through his interactions with Cas we also become more suspicious of Castiel here – torturing the “Sheriff” is definitlety not normal Cas behaviour. And in the end it’s Bobby who has the theory first that Cas is behind Crowley’s continued existence. Little moments like this keep the show so real for me.
Very sad that Sam and Dean’s compassion for the kids was a trap, but between the guilt over that and then the discovery of the dead children, I believe that they wouldn’t have made the connection between Cas and Crowley so quickly with out Bobby there.
Lots of good moments in this episode but overall a little lack luster.
There is NOTHING I don’t like about this episode….cause….COWBOY DEAN!
“LOVE me some possy.”
I just can’t get over Dean’s enthusiasm for all things old West and everyone else’s confusion or consternation about it. It is ADORABLE and let’s a little bit of childlike Dean shine through in this grim time that is heartwarming. Starting with the research session in the Campbell’s weirdo cellar library when Dean finds Samuel Colt’s journal.
(Side note: I thought it was a very cool contrast how the Campbell compound is different from Bobby’s homebase. It drives the differences between them home on what is most important. The Campbells are all about the mission at the expense of family to me – with utilitarian facilities and a survivalist style dug out “bunker”, while Bobby is about the mission for family – making his home into what’s necessary to stay safe but not give up on the home feel. Bobby’s is where the heart is.)
Of course, it’s also funny when Dean’s fan-boying meets the harsh reality of how NOT awesome – or at least not sanitary – the old West was. HAHA. The whole thing with the “Lady of the Night” is just hilarious.
The episode has so many funny lines that are legendary now.
I also really like the case of the Phoenix creature. I often wondered if Dean would have killed him if they didn’t absolutely need the ashes? In the end the guy was wronged and his wife brutally killed. Yes, revenge is rarely the best solution, but there was a lot of grey area in the story that I thought Dean would have sympathy for otherwise.
Sam’s encounter with S. Colt was very cool for all of us! I appreciate that they built such a rich character and back story to the Colt that was already so important in the show. I loved how Sam immediately outsmarts Colt and how that obviously impressed S. Colt enough to get involved after all and send Sam the ashes.
Rarely do we have an episode that makes a twist right at the end like here where we believe all was for naught and then find out differently in the last moments of the show. Very clever.
All around a great idea and a classic episode!
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Another awesome story!
LOVE the way we find out slowly WHAT’S going on!
The episode start TOTALLY throws us for a loop – the Mustang! The different name on Bobby’s junkyard (B&E scrapyard). Ellen being married to Bobby!! Jo being alive and hunting. The boys staying in a much nicer motel (White Star Hotel – very art deco wall paper!). All slightly off. LOVE all that.
Seeing Ellen again is AWESOME and she looks amazing!
I am so glad we got these scenes between Bobby and Ellen! What amazingly strong AND at the same time difficult relationship and partnership that would have been!
All the deaths in the episode are really gruesome and kind off over the top.
I always REALLY enjoy the crap out of Balthazar – especially his portrayal by Sebastian Roche!!! He showed us another kind of angel! His arrogance and entitlement and petulance and complete disregard for rules or consequences is FUN to watch. Like in French Mistake or here.
Of course, we later find out the real reason behind WHY the whole Titanic plan even happened in the final surprise of the episode and BIG reveal by fate that CAS is behind it all and Balthzar works with him! Mindblown!
I’m glad that it wasn’t Sam, Dean or Bobby who had to make the decision to RE-sink the Titanic!!
This episode also REALLY shifted my view of Cas. He’s straight up LYING to Sam and Dean here for no other reason than to protect himself and his own plan. Yes, also to protect them, but he CAUSED the whole situation to begin with. BIG step in the wrong direction, Cas!
Oh, and I LOVE how we get so much new and important info about Rufus being Jewish, and having been the one who saved Bobby from his demon-possessed wife, and having been the one introducing Bobby to hunting all from the short final scene at his gravesite!
REALLY well done.
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ROUGH episode!!
The tension is SO THICK in this one! Great cast of characters, bringing Samuel, Gwen, Rufus, Bobby and Sam and Dean together! We all know hunters are paranoid sobs on the best day, but THIS situation really ramped it up to 100 between them all. The past hurts and mistrust surfacing amongst them is painting a great picture at how hard and rare it really is in hunter circles to trust anyone fully.
How quickly everyone is willing to be at each other’s throat even without the khan worm being a factor gives us added appreciation for Sam and Dean’s bond and repeat cycle of forgiveness.
Of course, we still want to know what happened in Omaha that has Rufus telling Bobby he can never forgive him. GREAT scenes between Bobby and Rufus!
HATE losing Rufus in this one!!! The character was sadly underutilized, but I am grateful we had him at all and that Steven Williams made him such charismatic and memorable presence!!!
And as much as I hate Samuel as a character, I will never not admire Mitch Pileggi’s portrayal of him. However, I am FINE with him being gone now!
WOW, CREEPY Bobby monster! Great job, Jim Beaver! His delivery of the exposition about Eve and what she has planned was chilling and not at all a drag as exposition sometimes can be.
Funny how Eve’s and Dick Roman’s plan about making Earth’s inhabitants food matched so nicely. They must have had a chat in Purgatory. LOL
GREAT misdirect at the end where we think for a moment that BOBBY didn’t make it when Sam and Dean are standing somberly at a gravesite!!
I really love how we find out new important info about Rufus being Jewish and having saved Bobby from his demon possessed wife and being the one who introduced him to hunting thereafter from just the short scene by Rufus’ grave.
Tight, tense, interesting and geniusly acted episode!