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      January 15, 2024 at 6:59 pm #97879

      Great start to the season 6 Finale!!

      We are left totally clueless and rudderless with Sam running around like a looney.

      I love the way the story is unfolding in this episode.

      Totally forgot that “Angel Duma” is in this episode as Robin.

      Really cool idea with the fractured Sam’s. And great job, Jared, for playing the different parts of Sam so distinctly. Especially the merge between soulless part and slightly too clueless part was really well done, once they came together it was easy to tell we now had tougher, almost normal Sam, but not quite. Shows real nuanced understanding of all that Sam is made up of!

      I love the urgency in the episode, too. Dean is so torn between sticking with Sam and trying to stop Cas. Bobby is trying to keep the calm and keep Dean on track. Cas and Crowley squabbling for control. Cas slowly losing grip on the last bit of sanity AND killing Balthazar. It’s all really well done.

      Yup, this stretch of Cas’ storyline is making me lose ALL sympathy for him. He can’t even claim he was under anyone’s influence until he actually has the Purgatory souls inside him.

      It’s a solid Season Finale even if I hate what’s happening. HA!

      PigNaPoke
        January 15, 2024 at 5:08 pm #97874

        MAAAAAN, end of Season 6 is TOUGH!!

        This is one of my least favorite episodes…..because we permanently lose Lisa and Ben from the show.

        I STILL wish Dean would have had more faith in believing that Lisa can make her OWN decision of wanting to keep or break up contact with him. The memory wipe never sat well with me.

        Not only does it seem cruel to Lisa (and Dean, of course, but HE made the choice) but I also don’t really think that it WOULD actually protect Lisa and Ben IF something would want to come after them to hurt Dean again…..

        But as a story line, it is POWERFUL! And I totally blame CAS for it! It’s Cas’ wishy-washy attitude towards Crowley that forces Crowley’s hand, more or less.

        LOTS of maneuvering of players in this episode. Very interesting to watch.

        Dean breaks my heart! Torturing demons, trying to get information, but still also trying to protect Sam from seeing him lose his shit on the demons?!

        The Lovecraft case is a fun exploit on that bit of well-loved literary pop culture. And I LOVE how they brought Ellie back into the story like this! Shame she dies – love the actress! And her and Bobby really have some great scenes together.

        The old actor playing the last surviving human from the initial Lovecraft spell night was fantastic! He had a great way to still seem like a little boy in an old body, like his development got stuck back then from shock or something.

        I am glad we have some great actors like Sebastian Roche to deliver exposition to us. It would be pretty heavy handed otherwise. LOL.

        Cas BLACKMAILING Dean with the promise to help Lisa and Ben if he’s standing down is another TOTAL huge crack in their friendship. At least it would be for me.

        Some GREAT lighting in the warehouse scenes!

        As hard as it is to watch, I love the dad energy Dean has with Ben and how he keeps him focused and helping to get Lisa out of the warehouse.

        I tear up every time I watch Dean giving up Lisa and Ben when he walks  from their room in the Hospital and ALMOST loses it. (Gorgeous acting again from Jensen!!) UGH! Poor Dean and also…DAMMIT, Dean!

        I am glad that Sam at least TRIES to make Dean see reason at the end, but also respects Dean’s wishes without an argument when he sees the tears in Dean’s eyes! THAT is good brother energy.

        All sooo sad!

        PigNaPoke
          January 15, 2024 at 4:17 pm #97871

          This episode is difficult for me.

          GREAT dramatic story line, for sure, BUT….

          I know it’s MEANT for us to understand Cas more and his motivations and see that he needs help to see right from wrong. BUT what it does for me instead is REALLY turn me off from Cas. And I think, deep down, this episode broke my love for Cas pretty permanently.

          CROWLEY says it exactly right here (paraphrasing): “As long as the Winchesters believe the big lie of the good Cas, the righteous Cas, you (Cas) get to believe it.”

          But that’s not good enough. I need more here to make me see his pure intentions.

          He keeps saying he is doing this and that to protect his friends. But ALL of his actions have a kernel of self-service. None of it is self-sacrificing.

          He’s weak – not strong. At least weak-minded. Motivated by the fear of losing heaven, being beaten by Raphael and he doesn’t even come up with his own clever solution…Crowley does that FOR him…..SIGH. And he doesn’t have the wits to see the negative side of this?!

          Or AT LEAST to ask for help from the Winchesters and Bobby? Has he learned NOTHING from them!

          I’m also not a fan of the jumpy timeline. It’s confusing!

          I do LOVE Crowley here – Mark is fantastic.

          And JENSEN!!! That few seconds of non-verbal acting right after Dean finds out that Cas DID betray them is so freaking masterful. You see every nuance – surprise, loss of faith, deep disappointment, hurt and finally murderous anger. WOW.

          And Dean is right in saying later: “You’re a freaking child. Just because you can do what you want, you don’t get to do whatever you want.”

          Every moment in this episode where Cas is given yet another chance to listen and change course, he doesn’t. ON WHAT AUTHORITY???

          And then he’s ASKING GOD????? Who hasn’t spoken to him ever???

          He has close friends who are looking out for him RIGHT THERE. FAMILY who wants to believe in him and forgive him. And he’s choosing to ignore them? THAT is STUPID. (And making Sam’s wall crumble later on is unforgivable to me).

          Yeah, IF the intention was to make me feel for Cas’s hard situation and difficult choices….it failed. All it makes me feel is outraged that he learned so little and is so damn naïve.

          PigNaPoke
            January 15, 2024 at 3:18 pm #97867

            This episode is kinda middle of the road for me.
            I find the EVE story line in this super confusing, with the monster mixing etc, but as we find out much later….we were supposed to be confused. Still it makes the episode drag for me and less enjoyable.
            I do like Amber Benson (Lenore) a lot as an actress and thought bringing her character back here even if just for a few moments was a good choice. And having Cas kill her so abruptly and without apparent feeling was pretty chilling.
            I don’t like the actress they chose to play Eve, she was not convincing in the least, BUT Sam Smith really does a great job here as Eve with Mary’s face on. She uses the perfect mix of sweet and edgy. (I wish, though, they had kept it Mary’s visage as Eve died. It would have been even more impactful.). I love how that throws Sam and Dean off a little. And it makes the exposition and big reveals Eve has to give us more interesting to watch.
            BOBBY is very fun to watch in this. His “a computer is supposed to have buttons” reaction to a tablet Sam gives him is sweet. I often feel like technology is racing away from my comprehension. HA! And overall Bobby has a lot of good insight here and through his interactions with Cas we also become more suspicious of Castiel here – torturing the “Sheriff” is definitlety not normal Cas behaviour. And in the end it’s Bobby who has the theory first that Cas is behind Crowley’s continued existence. Little moments like this keep the show so real for me.
            Very sad that Sam and Dean’s compassion for the kids was a trap, but between the guilt over that and then the discovery of the dead children, I believe that they wouldn’t have made the connection between Cas and Crowley so quickly with out Bobby there.
            Lots of good moments in this episode but overall a little lack luster.

            PigNaPoke
              January 15, 2024 at 2:34 pm #97856

              There is NOTHING I don’t like about this episode….cause….COWBOY DEAN!

              “LOVE me some possy.”

              I just can’t get over Dean’s enthusiasm for all things old West and everyone else’s confusion or consternation about it. It is ADORABLE and let’s a little bit of childlike Dean shine through in this grim time that is heartwarming. Starting with the research session in the Campbell’s weirdo cellar library when Dean finds Samuel Colt’s journal.

              (Side note: I thought it was a very cool contrast how the Campbell compound is different from Bobby’s homebase. It drives the differences between them home on what is most important. The Campbells are all about the mission at the expense of family to me – with utilitarian facilities and a survivalist style dug out “bunker”, while Bobby is about the mission for family – making his home into what’s necessary to stay safe but not give up on the home feel. Bobby’s is where the heart is.)

              Of course, it’s also funny when Dean’s fan-boying meets the harsh reality of how NOT awesome – or at least not sanitary – the old West was. HAHA. The whole thing with the “Lady of the Night” is just hilarious.

              The episode has so many funny lines that are legendary now.

              I also really like the case of the Phoenix creature. I often wondered if Dean would have killed him if they didn’t absolutely need the ashes? In the end the guy was wronged and his wife brutally killed. Yes, revenge is rarely the best solution, but there was a lot of grey area in the story that I thought Dean would have sympathy for otherwise.

              Sam’s encounter with S. Colt was very cool for all of us! I appreciate that they built such a rich character and back story to the Colt that was already so important in the show. I loved how Sam immediately outsmarts Colt and how that obviously impressed S. Colt enough to get involved after all and send Sam the ashes.

              Rarely do we have an episode that makes a twist right at the end like here where we believe all was for naught and then find out differently in the last moments of the show. Very clever.

              All around a great idea and a classic episode!

              PNP

               

              PigNaPoke
                November 12, 2023 at 5:01 pm #90100

                Another awesome story!

                LOVE the way we find out slowly WHAT’S going on!

                The episode start TOTALLY throws us for a loop – the Mustang! The different name on Bobby’s junkyard (B&E scrapyard). Ellen being married to Bobby!! Jo being alive and hunting. The boys staying in a much nicer motel (White Star Hotel – very art deco wall paper!). All slightly off. LOVE all that.

                Seeing Ellen again is AWESOME and she looks amazing!

                I am so glad we got these scenes between Bobby and Ellen! What amazingly strong AND at the same time difficult relationship and partnership that would have been!

                All the deaths in the episode are really gruesome and kind off over the top.

                I always REALLY enjoy the crap out of Balthazar – especially his portrayal by Sebastian Roche!!! He showed us another kind of angel! His arrogance and entitlement and petulance and complete disregard for rules or consequences is FUN to watch. Like in French Mistake or here.

                Of course, we later find out the real reason behind WHY the whole Titanic plan even happened in the final surprise of the episode and BIG reveal by fate that CAS is behind it all and Balthzar works with him! Mindblown!

                I’m glad that it wasn’t Sam, Dean or Bobby who had to make the decision to RE-sink the Titanic!!

                This episode also REALLY shifted my view of Cas. He’s straight up LYING to Sam and Dean here for no other reason than to protect himself and his own plan. Yes, also to protect them, but he CAUSED the whole situation to begin with.  BIG step in the wrong direction, Cas!

                PigNaPoke
                  November 12, 2023 at 4:17 pm #90098

                  Oh, and I LOVE how we get so much new and important info about Rufus being Jewish, and having been the one who saved Bobby from his demon-possessed wife, and having been the one introducing Bobby to hunting all from the short final scene at his gravesite!

                  REALLY well done.

                  PNP

                  PigNaPoke
                    November 12, 2023 at 4:15 pm #90097
                    On PigNaPoke said

                    ROUGH episode!!

                    The tension is SO THICK in this one! Great cast of characters, bringing Samuel, Gwen, Rufus, Bobby and Sam and Dean together! We all know hunters are paranoid sobs on the best day, but THIS situation really ramped it up to 100 between them all. The past hurts and mistrust surfacing amongst them is painting a great picture at how hard and rare it really is in hunter circles to trust anyone fully.

                    How quickly everyone is willing to be at each other’s throat even without the khan worm being a factor gives us added appreciation for Sam and Dean’s bond and repeat cycle of forgiveness.

                    Of course, we still want to know what happened in Omaha that has Rufus telling Bobby he can never forgive him. GREAT scenes between Bobby and Rufus!

                    HATE losing Rufus in this one!!! The character was sadly underutilized, but I am grateful we had him at all and that Steven Williams made him such charismatic and memorable presence!!!

                    And as much as I hate Samuel as a character, I will never not admire Mitch Pileggi’s portrayal of him. However, I am FINE with him being gone now!

                    WOW, CREEPY Bobby monster! Great job, Jim Beaver! His delivery of the exposition about Eve and what she has planned was chilling and not at all a drag as exposition sometimes can be.

                    Funny how Eve’s and Dick Roman’s plan about making Earth’s inhabitants food matched so nicely. They must have had a chat in Purgatory. LOL

                    GREAT misdirect at the end where we think for a moment that BOBBY didn’t make it when Sam and Dean are standing somberly at a gravesite!!

                    I really love how we find out new important info about Rufus being Jewish and having saved Bobby from his demon possessed wife and being the one who introduced him to hunting thereafter from just the short scene by Rufus’ grave.

                     

                    Tight, tense, interesting and geniusly acted episode!

                     

                     

                     

                    PigNaPoke
                      November 12, 2023 at 4:06 pm #90096

                      ROUGH episode!!

                      The tension is SO THICK in this one! Great cast of characters, bringing Samuel, Gwen, Rufus, Bobby and Sam and Dean together! We all know hunters are paranoid sobs on the best day, but THIS situation really ramped it up to 100 between them all. The past hurts and mistrust surfacing amongst them is painting a great picture at how hard and rare it really is in hunter circles to trust anyone fully.

                      How quickly everyone is willing to be at each other’s throat even without the khan worm being a factor gives us added appreciation for Sam and Dean’s bond and repeat cycle of forgiveness.

                      Of course, we still want to know what happened in Omaha that has Rufus telling Bobby he can never forgive him. GREAT scenes between Bobby and Rufus!

                      HATE losing Rufus in this one!!! The character was sadly underutilized, but I am grateful we had him at all and that Steven Williams made him such charismatic and memorable presence!!!

                      And as much as I hate Samuel as a character, I will never not admire Mitch Pileggi’s portrayal of him. However, I am FINE with him being gone now!

                      WOW, CREEPY Bobby monster! Great job, Jim Beaver! His delivery of the exposition about Eve and what she has planned was chilling and not at all a drag as exposition sometimes can be.

                      Funny how Eve’s and Dick Roman’s plan about making Earth’s inhabitants food matched so nicely. They must have had a chat in Purgatory. LOL

                      GREAT misdirect at the end where we think for a moment that BOBBY didn’t make it when Sam and Dean are standing somberly at a gravesite!!

                      Tight, tense, interesting and geniusly acted episode!

                      PigNaPoke
                        November 12, 2023 at 3:48 pm #90095

                        HISTORIC episode of TV. Going completely meta like this was such risk and paid of SO brilliantly!

                        Packed full of easter eggs. Chuck full of behind the scenes humor and just a delight!

                        This is an episode that gets funnier to me every time I watch it because I know more about the real people involved now. Both from conventions and the Supernatural Then and Now podcast I have a much better insight into the actors and production staff and crew and that makes the whole thing even better and I can really appreciate how overexaggerated they are being portrayed here.

                        The PREMISE of the episode with Balthazar using Sam and Dean as decoys to distract Virgil is also really well thought out.

                        Another episode Jared proves WELL capable of being funny! The scenes with Gen alone are perfection! Acting like you don’t know your own wife and being so stiff about it was exactly right.

                        And them “acting” will forever be THE BEST. HAHAHA.

                        Some of my favorite scenes are the Misha-being-a-whiny-asshole scenes. He is SO different from his character AND so different from how kind we know real Misha to be….what great writing.

                         

                        PNP

                         

                         

                        PigNaPoke
                          November 12, 2023 at 3:22 pm #90093

                          I always forget that I actually like the REST of this episode, because what sticks in my brain the most are the PAINFUL scenes between Dean, Lisa and Ben!!!

                          UGH! Seeing Dean and Lisa so awkward with each other is really hard to watch! Every time! I always harbored the hope they’ll find a way past the Twihard incident. Ben obviously has and still wants Dean be part of his family…. And Lisa was SO open to try any arrangement Dean can offer, but this is really Classic Dean….standing in his own way of even partial happiness. Makes me want to shake him and kick him in the ass.

                          This episode really breaks my heart every time seeing that Lisa is trying hard to move on and Dean thinks to little of himself that he gave up trying to make this work. SIGH! The dialogue between Dean and Ben is so well written and sad on so many levels.

                          The Mannequin case is interesting and so nicely creepy! It keeps us guessing all the way to the end stays bleak and dark beginning to end. Haunted kidney was a new one 😊

                          I did also enjoy the book ends of Sam coming back from having collapsed at the end of Unforgiven and then at the end of this episode agreeing not to try and pry into his memories and thanking Dean for bringing him back.

                          PigNaPoke
                            November 12, 2023 at 2:37 pm #90092

                            HATE IT!

                            They took Sam WAY TO DARK in this one!!! It doesn’t track with other glimpses we get of Soulless Sam. He is methodical, calculating, more ruthless than normal, BUT not a totally cold killer.

                            I know we needed a flash back episode in a way….well, this ain’t working!!

                            I am ignoring this one and don’t figure it into canon – hot bathroom scene or no.

                             

                            PNP

                            PigNaPoke
                              November 12, 2023 at 2:31 pm #90091

                              This episode is a weird one to me. The case is MEH to me because there aren’t real dragons. I know….I know…probably a budget thing but they REALLY could have spent a little more time on the dragon lore and make the dragon/people a little more scary or at least have a shadow transformation or something to convey they are actually supernaturally powerful and intimidating. So, that whole thing fell flat to me.

                              Also, WHY did they collect so many virgins, when it seemed they really only needed the ONE to serve as Eve’s meat suit. Maybe I missed something there. And what happened to the other girls?

                              I do enjoy this episode for the brother interactions, though!

                              I appreciate how this episode directly continues the last one. (Well, after the odd airplane/dragon opener)

                              Cas’ dire warning of what Sam’s soul felt like is chilling! And you really feel the tension in the room as Dean worries and is anxious and Bobby is cautiously optimistic. Then that flips on its head when Sam shows up, seemingly completely normal, and now Dean is optimistic and straight back to being extremely protective and Bobby taken aback and cautioning Dean that he’s got issues coming when Sam finds out about the wall in his brain.

                              I love the way Jared plays Sam when he first wakes up, kinda wide-eyed and just so happy to see everyone and the only thing coming to his mind is that he’s hungry. It’s cute and makes him seem innocent and younger for a moment. Like a breath of fresh air.

                              Of course, all that is quickly overwritten by finding out how long he’d been gone.

                              I also love that Sam is quickly back to being Sam, investigating, suspicious, smart, worried about Dean’s antics about stealing the virgin’s diary. HAHA. (Also Sam looks AWESOME in this episode)

                              Very Sam and Dean and pretty heart-breaking exchange about Lisa and Ben, when Sam questions if Dean even tried living a life away from hunting and Dean admits that it didn’t work out. ☹

                              I wonder what the building is that Dr. Visiyak lives in. It’s main doors open outwards and all that stained glass and dark wood work….maybe a museum? Anyhow, it’s a great location and very suitable to house a dragon sword.

                              THAT bit, with Dean and the sword is HILARIOUS and I am glad they went all out cheesy sword in stone trope and then twisted it the Winchester way with the dynamite!! GREAT idea.

                              I really question, why Dean wouldn’t have told Cas to shut up about what he knows. BIG oversight in my book. He totally should’ve guessed that Cas wasn’t “human” enough to see Sam’s subterfuge coming.

                              The whole freeing of the virgins and fighting the dragons is kinda anticlimactic….really the only thing we get out of it is the gold they need for “Frontierland”. LOL. Also, this pile of gold should have come up a few more times over the years! I mean, what happened to it? Did they slowly cash it in? Was it ALL lost in the old west?

                              The end of the episode is nice and ominous, though. Eve is annoying and the actress weak, but I do like the way she is introduced and the cutting back and forth between Bobby explaining what the book seems to be about and the actual action.

                              PigNaPoke
                                November 12, 2023 at 1:30 pm #90090

                                Forever one of my favorites and an episode I go to regularly when I need a good laugh.

                                I know Jared says that he prefers serious/drama to comedic acting, but he’s PERFECT here in his deadpan delivery for the most ridiculous lines!

                                Of course, we know Jensen is a master at anything and his comedic timing is incredible and this episode definitely gives him room to shine bright in that respect. The “fight” with the tiny fairy alone is a master piece in physical comedy. You actually try and look for the tiny naked lady with nipples because Jensen makes you believe she’s there. HA.

                                SO MANY funny lines between the two of them. And I love the dynamic of Dean trying to keep Sam more “human” by explaining what a soul does for you and Sam deciding that doesn’t sound so great.

                                I love the case, too, the correlation between alien and fairy myths and the way each can be interpreted as the other. The misdirection leading us down the alien path first and the nice twist that it’s actually fairies doing the kidnapping keeps us guessing and wondering what’s next. And I really appreciate the lore about first born sons and the many different fairies they bring into the story!

                                Lots of excellent guest actors as always. The actress playing the Hippie Chick is really sweet and believable. And Robert Picardo (who I always loves as The Doctor on Star Trek Voyager) really plays the mischievous and dangerous nature of a Leprechaun so well, it’s a fun villain to watch.

                                I could go on and on with minutia but won’t. I rather watch it again.

                                For me this is a 10 out of 10 episode.

                                PigNaPoke
                                  September 17, 2023 at 9:47 am #78279

                                  OOOF this episode is DARK, but really good.

                                   

                                  The parallel of both brothers going to EXTREME and desperate measures to do what they think is right is clear but not in a belligerent way.

                                  Of course, BOTH are misguided ways to deal with the situation. It’s very disquieting that Sam would even consider the spell he needs to kill Boibby for! UGH. Making it absolutely clear that he cannot go on without his sould, tattered as it may be.

                                  At the end of the last episode I was left with a little annoyance at Dean’s pig headed focus on shoving Sam’s soul back in his body, no matter the cost, BUT in this episode Sam’s cold hearted approach of how to keep his sould OUT of himself is DEFINITELY not the right way about it either. And I am a bit surprised that the writers went THAT far into the dark side for Sam.

                                  I would hope that there is even a shred of feeling left for the fact that Bobby IS like a second father to him. And if not from a emotional angle….wouldn’t soulless Sam at least consider the wealth of information and support he needs Bobby for?

                                  But in any case it makes for a great, chilling, story line in this episode. And also shows again how Bobby still has the upper hand in many situations, outsmarting even Sam, if not in the physical strength department.

                                  For the Dean side of the story: LOVED having Death and Tessa back. Both are portrayed so excellently and always a joy to watch.

                                  I absolutely delight is every interaction between Death and Dean!!! They have found a unique chemistry in these scenes that just keep me on the edge of my seat. Death seems to find Dean mildly interesting and maybe even amusing in his “snarky bacterium” way. And Dean can’t help STILL being defiant and demanding no matter the power Death holds, BUT it is definitely tinged with a healthy dose of respect and hidden doubt. The way Jensen plays that is just incredible! Tight, slightly turned away, body language as if Dean is on the edge of running, just as he makes a crass comment or demand. Surprise instead of relief in his eyes when Death doesn’t kill him for his defiance, like Dean fully expected not to make it out of this. It is ALL so very good.

                                  I also love how the entire “Day as Death” turns out for Dean. OF COURSE, no one counted on Dean to be able to kill people indiscriminately, like the little girl. His whole life’s work is about protecting people from too early death and cruelty of the supernatural world. Dean goes in blind and goes by his gut instinct that has mostly worked for him in hunting and dealing with the world.

                                  To find out at the end that the whole experiment was pretty much a lesson from Death so Dean could  get a glimpse behind the curtain and see the bigger picture how things are connected was brilliant! To see that even the biggest powers in this universe cannot just wield that power however they see fit, but that there are rules and boundaries on how one effect the other. And that Death actually wants Dean and Sam to keep digging at the mystery at hand regarding souls was a real surprise. And also shows that as annoying as the Winchester’s meddling of the natural order of things is to the PTBs….it is sometimes necessary to shake things up, I guess, to rearrange some of the big players….as we find out soon.

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